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re: Meydan Musings

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:01:37 GMT

Jo Cappuccino's broodmare sire is Fusaichi Concorde (JPN) not Fusaichi Pegasus.

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re: Silver Lining

Steve Ellis — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:59:27 GMT

Hi Alan,

Thanks for your input,really appreciate it.

I note the broodmare Balmerino line(Balmahal) left a Group winner in Prairie by sire Canny Lad.We have a Stallion in NZ called D'Cash that has Canny Lass a full sister to Canny Lad on the bottom line.

What are your views of my thinking of giving this Stallion(D'Cash)a chance with my mare Malibu Barbie?

Surely if the cross with Canny Lad worked with the Balmerino Broodmare Sire line there is a royal chance it will work again?

Regards,

Steve

re: Reader Q&A - Derby Contender Nicks?

tengrandrand&co.. — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:34:51 GMT

Thanks so very much Mr. Porter for all this wonderful information. Hope to meet with you at Keeneland's spring meet 2010.You must live A++ charm life sir.

re: Silver Lining

Alan Porter — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:21:13 GMT

Hi Sceptre,

That's a very interesting idea. I suppose in practice whether some of the genes that may effect energy pathways and related systems, are recessive, or the result of polymorphisms, would have a similar looking end result, in as much as they are expressed in a minority of the population.

If my understanding is correct, though, polymorphism could potential result in genes that expressed themselves in a smaller percentage of the population than in a straightforward expression of recessive traits.

I guess to complicate things, we have epistasis - where the expression of a gene or genes influenced by other genes that don't even have to be on the same chromosome. I've often wondered if there is anything on the x-chromosome that has a catalytic effect.

I think there is an interesting article to be written on the potentially different effects of recessive genes, polymorphism, epistasis, and super-genes, and how it they might be utilized in matings. I'd admit that well I have a broad grasp, it's one that might be a little beyond me to grasp. Is it something you would tackle?

Anyway, thank you for a thought- provoking contribution. I certainly think some of these more complex methods of inheritance are going to explain some of the pedigree patterns that seem to work.

Best,

Alan

re: Silver Lining

Alan Porter — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:55:02 GMT

Hi Steve,

Malibu Barbie certainly has an intriguing pattern with the three Dulcie crosses, including a three-parts-brother and sister at the top and bottom of the pedigree.

Istidaad also has some interesting linebreeding, to Miss Disco (dam of Bold Ruler) and her brother Loser Weeper.

What you would be hoping is that some elements in that background work with Dulcie or Dreamy Carlyle. There are some tie-ups, and I see that Dulcie does have Posterity, a half-brother to the dam of Display (grandsire of Miss Disco and Loser Weeper). Dreamy Carlyle has a half-sister to Nearco, the grandsire of Bold Ruler.

Istidaad also has a lot of Bull Dog and Sir Gallahad III, and that might help, as there is a fair bit of Bend Or/Macaroni in the key background of the mare.

Good luck with the mating.

Regards

Alan Porter

re: An Exciting Thursday at Medyan

Alan Porter — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:48:43 GMT

Hi Mickey101,

Regal Warrior is actually a horse with an interesting pedigree. He is by Louis Quatorze, who hasn't been super-consistent in the U.S., such as Bushfire, Repent, Choctaw Nation, Second of June, and who has also done very well in South America.

Out of a mare by the well-bred Galliapat (by Buckpasser from the family of A.P. Indy), Regal Warrior is an A Nick. The dam was a tough mare, winning 10 races. The direct female line is light, but what is really interesting is that Louis Quatorze has the three-parts-sister and brother Bold Princess and Bold Lad 2 x 3, and Regal Warrior's granddam is by Exuberant, a son of What a Pleasure, a brother to Bold Princess, and three-parts-brother to Bold Lad. Regal Warrior is also linebred to Nashua and a sister.

re: Buckpasser Line Prevails, With Help From La Troienne

Patrick — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:37:14 GMT

If you are looking for a stallion that carries a large quantity of La Troienne in his pedigree, take a look at MONBA. He carries five strains of the great La Troienne, while carrying a double cross of Buckpasser in his fourth generation.

re: Buckpasser Line Prevails, With Help From La Troienne

Peggy — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:28:16 GMT

LaTroienne-yes. I've had my best moving thoroughbreds from stallions with her as tail female: Allemande and Straight Deal. Wish we had some in NY!

re: It's All Relative

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re: An Exciting Thursday at Medyan

mickey101 — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:13:07 GMT

regal warrior,just ran second in the mircle wood.....please comment on his breeding.

re: Silver Lining

Steve Ellis — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:35:35 GMT

I would love to get your views on a mare that I bred that is inbred to Dulcie mother of Champion NZ horse Balmerino.The mares name is Malibu Barbie inbred 4x4x5 to Dulcie and inbred 3x4 to Dreamy Carlyle grandam of Hong Cup winning horse Kessem.

I'm very excited about the filly she left by Istidaad called Shanghai Lil whom I'm just about to break in.

She has straight legs and very calm temperament,very professional in all ways.

Perhaps i will find out that I have bred a very slow horse.

But who knows she could be a freak.

Malibu Barbie slipped her second foal to Patapan.

She is back in foal to Istidaad.

re: Q&A - Why a 'C' Rating?

Cameron Mahlum — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:19:06 GMT

Hey Dale, I actually think we are related! Are you the former legislator from Montana?

re: Reversal of Fortune

Alan Porter — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:14:59 GMT

Kevin,

I agree that I wouldn't write Buddy's Saint off -- looked like his pilot decided to go for a hole that wasn't there -- Eskenderya has certainly taken over from him as Derby favorite. He ran the best route Beyer by any of the current 3yo I believe, and Buddy's Saint might be up against it if he has only one more start before the Derby.

Moving on to Ivory Star, Raffie's Majesty looks a very good cross here (TrueNicks A++). Cormorant likes Halo, probably to do with Recce in his female line.

re: Silver Lining

sceptre — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:36:31 GMT

Dear Alan,

Your post of 2/23 surprises me. The combined message of your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs suggest that you may be attributing to recessive genes effects (and a mechanism) that are better attributed to polymorphisms (alternative alleles at same locus). Along the same line, there appears to be a subtle contradiction when comparing "Roger's" 1st paragaph with his 6th...If you ponder on it for a while, you may conclude that inbreeding's/linebreeding's potential advantages likely result more from my dynamic (explanation) than from yours or Roger's, and is by far the more likely scenario for inbred sires/dams which achieve success well beyond apparent expectation.